John Walsh went after my buddy at one point (and others like him), saying they profited from crime. Richard Ramirez was still a predator from behind bars and in this episode we look at some creepy prison letters from the case of The Night Stalker Richard Ra. The Super Heroines made their last album, Love and Pain, in 1983; but it was not released for another 8 years. Harder said he is pleased that the Netflix documentary focused on the child murders and abuse committed by Ramirez because the killer was never tried for these crimes. Sarah and Richard had more of a "fantasy" kind of . 180-12 Hometown: Texas Wheels: Lamborghini in the parking lot Brothers:4. wish there was more, I tried looking for it I think they removed it , but do yall know if its anywhere else ? LET ME REPHRASE SINCE I CANT EDIT THE TITLE. Harder shared several letters and pictures from Ramirez - but pointed out he never pays prisoners for items - or sells letters or artwork sent to him personally. I realize some of you think what I do is disgusting, and that's okay. Doreen Lioy remained unconvinced of his guilt. [1] An acoustic album, From the Heart's lyrics represented influences of Eva's positive views.[5]. Correspondence doesnt necessarily denote a personal relationship. It has been repeatedly turned down for distribution in the United States due to its subject matter. After 11 years of writing love letters to her prospective husband, Doreen Lioy finally got to marry the man of her dreams. He holds dual bachelor's degrees from Pace University and a master's degree from New York University. He would do little research projects and try to figure out different things. Dude his drawings weird me out I expect to see those kinds of doodles in a kid's school folder. He was reportedly abused by his father, and he sustained multiple head injuries as a child. It's difficult moderating threads like this. Thats how we communicated before meeting for the first time.of course, newspapers and TV news said he smiled and waved to the camera because he was not remorseful. [1], The Super Heroines released several albums, and when Rikk Agnew left Christian Death, Rozz asked Eva to fill in on guitar. "He loved his image as the Night Stalker no question about it he had a hefty amount of female admirers and he knew he had notoriety behind his name and he liked that. She now releases solo albums with her band Mz O and Her Guns, as well as having recently joined a variation of Christian Death (known as Christian Death 1334) with original members and while she takes on vocal duties in place of the late Rozz Williams. Richard Ramirez and I have been writing to each other for a little over a year now. In one letter to a crazed female fan, he brags how he gets 50 letters a week, creepily asks at what age her breasts developed and claims he lost his virginity aged nine. What about damaged people attracts other damaged people. So I sent him the thirty letters I had written so far, all at once. When directly asked, Lioy would just say, Hometown girl makes bad., [People call me crazy] or stupid or lying, she complained. / Source 3. "He didn't really know how to interact, he was soft spoken and well spoken he read a lot. Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. Pretty sure the closest he got to experiencing sincere, romantic love was with his prison girlfriend, Eva O. Richard Ramirez is under renewed scrutiny thanks to Netflix documentary series: Night Stalker. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. He was a 25-year-old drifter from El Paso, Texas, named Richard Ramirez. She wasnt deterred by the fact that he was found guilty of horrific crimes, from slashing a womans throat so deeply that she was nearly decapitated to gouging another victims eyes out. Just a Guy, our first foray into the animated documentary genre, started its highly successful festival run in 2020. They have murdered and tortured and raped. I am a bit disappointed that this has turned into such a circle jerk in some parts of the thread. Jablonski is just plain disgusting and Manson is a self-righteous egomaniac. "He has this chronic masturbation problem and was always masturbating when female officers would walk by. I'll answer more questions in the morning. The twisted serial killer is currently the focus of a new Netflix documentary, which has left many viewers shocked at the depravity of his crimes against men, women and children. Eva was born on January 11, 1961, in Las Vegas, Nevada, and moved to Los Angeles, California, in 1979 in hopes to start a rock band and be a rock star. Harder shared several letters and pictures from Ramirez - but pointed out he never pays prisoners for items - or sells letters or artwork sent to him personally. What could I get out of it? I can answer a few questions about my experience with writing him as well. One time, Harder said Ramirez lied to him about the name of his dog claiming it was called King, when it was actually called Princess. I'm sure there are still a lot of people that have pictures of themselves next to the full size replica of Gacy wearing the actual infamous clown suit. The attack happened while the woman slept. "I just believe in him . Thought that mf had an iphone for second. The other 2 women are friends. I could remove this because 'friends' feels inappropriate, but then at the same time I feel like i'm depriving people of handwritten documents that might give insight to a person's inner monologue. DISCLAIMER: This page is only for posting information, thoughts, and opinions on the nightstalker and the case as well as things associated with it. "He just put his head really close to the glass and he kept looking back to make sure there was no officers walking by behind him. By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. Harder figured out he had lied after speaking to his wife Doreen, who married him in prison. He writes: "Thank you for your compliments how old is your sister? The number of women that were in love this guy AFTER he was caught is astounding. Actor John Stamos actually credited her with helping him become a celebrity. View our online Press Pack. Through their perspective we revisit exchanged letters and emotions that are as obsessive as they are hauntingly familiar. I'm back to answer more for a few hours. She was even the first woman he ever proposed to. I still could not believe it was Richard writing to me. Lioy admitted that she knew why people found her marriage odd. Especially someone like Richard Ramirez, as far as serial killers go dude is a psycho in the worst way. Dubbed the Night Stalker by the media, Ramirez had already been sentenced to death for killing over a dozen people in the mid-1980s. Speed Queens broke up before they could release any songs, and she and bassist Sandra Ross started the Super Heroines. By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. This is the horrifying true story of the Night Stalker. Image posts must be accompanied by a comment explaining where you found it or why you find it interesting. They described their music as "a strange mixture of metallic death rock and punk." Relatives disowned her, and journalists couldnt understand why she had upended her life to be with Ramirez. Deathrock legend Eva O. is one of them. Why is that a thing? Some of the crimes he committed against children - including the kidnap of a six-year-old girl Anastasia Hronas, who miraculously survived, and told her harrowing story on the new docu-series Night Stalker - The Hunt For A Serial Killer - were not prosecuted because investigators did not want to put the child victims through a trial. One of his pieces of prison arts appears to be a self portrait of him grinning and holding up a pentagram on his hand. 21 serial killer quotes that will chill you to the bone, Brazils real-life Dexter, Pedro Rodrigues Filho. For more general true crime content, follow @bluudstainbarbie Its unclear what drove the couple apart, but some believe the 2009 evidence that he murdered a 9-year-old in 1984 was too much for Lioy. Eva O with Christian Death 1334, live in Italy, November 23, 2007. Everything below . Director Shoko Hara is one of them. Thomas Glen Lundgren, 13, who was brutalized by twice-paroled sex offender and violent child molester Bill Bonin and his accomplice Vernon Butts. Director Shoko Hara is one of them. Eventually, Eva got back together with Rozz and moved to San Francisco with him. And yet, being detained in San Quentin State Prison, he has an enormous number of female groupies that are crazy about him. I'd be interested in hearing people's thoughts on the matter. As for Stamos, he remembered Lioy as a very lonely woman and later reflected on her choice to marry Ramirez: To be that lonely that this is the only man on the planet that she can find, I just thought, How horrible. This man is the personification of evil just a monster.. Ramirez had been sentenced to death for 13 horrific murders, however, that didn't . Ramirez attacked both men and women, and the young and the old. Creepy but interesting. Sarah and Richard had more of a fantasy kind of relationship and Shoko was just curious and wanted to write him. The twisted serial killer is currently the focus of a new Netflix documentary, which has left many viewers shocked at the depravity of his crimes against men, women and children. Doreen Lioy entering San Quentin State Prison to be with Richard Ramirez. "I knew other people who visited him once walked in and the first thing he said was take off your shoes and put them up on the glass and he would jerk off right there, she told me the guy next to him actually handed him some toilet paper to clean up - it was just a thing - they knew that's what he was going to do. I always admired his voice and felt this was the best opportunity to have us together vocally expressing our love for Christ. Richard Ramirez killed at least 14 people, he raped and tortured at least two dozen more. From 1984 until he was caught in 1985, Ramirez murdered at least 14 people across California. Ramirez murdered 13 people in California in the mid-80s Credit: YouTube. Damnation/Salvation is a detailed chronicle of her involvement with the occult and Satanism climaxing with her encounter with Jesus. "It was funny to me he would fib about something so silly because he was so worried about his Night Stalker image. I'm struggling to decide how I feel about this (not that it really matters). 14 years after Eva's conversion to Christianity in 1993, rumors had it that Eva began drifting away from her faith. Enclosed is my handprint.". i really enjoyed this! By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. He was reportedly abused by his father, and he sustained multiple head injuries as a child. Through their perspective we revisit exchanged letters and emotions that are as obsessive as they are hauntingly familiar. A lot of well heeled businessman collect those items. Richard Ramirez killed at least 14 people, he raped and tortured at least two dozen more. Getty ImagesThe Night Stalker killed at least 14 people in the mid-1980s. "If you ever read his correspondence he was not a good letter writer. I cant help the way the world looks at him, she said at the time. On August 31, 1985, Ramirez was arrested after multiple witnesses recognized him on the street and beat him relentlessly until police arrived. "Interview with 'Just a Guy' director Shoko Hara", All the Love All the Hate (Part One: All the Love), All the Love All the Hate (Part Two: All the Hate), https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Eva_O&oldid=1129289570, Short description is different from Wikidata, Pages using infobox musical artist with associated acts, Official website different in Wikidata and Wikipedia, Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike License 3.0, This page was last edited on 24 December 2022, at 14:43. i.e: People who look up to murderers, admire them, think they're cool and want to be like them. These women have no empathy for his victims, and probably not any for other people either. And yet, Richard Ramirezs wife continued to vigorously defend her husband. I had read a peole magazine article about him, and I had concluded that he could understand me very well. I should have worded the title better lolol. Harder, who runs a crime memorabilia site called Murder Auction, told The Sun: "I first started writing to Ramirez in late 2000 and I visited with him twice and then I saw him a third time during another visit. What is the moral repercussions if I do? Eva was born on January 11, 1961, in Las Vegas, Nevada, and moved to Los Angeles, California, in 1979 in hopes to start a rock band and be a rock star. "He didn't really know how to interact, he was soft spoken and well spoken he read a lot. Authorities already had his mugshots from his previous arrests, and one of his surviving victims had provided police with a detailed description. Although Eva never considered herself to be an official member of Christian Death, her participation in that band and Shadow Project earned her the "queen of darkness" title.[4]. Deathrock legend Eva O. is one of them. "He has this chronic masturbation problem and was always masturbating when female officers would walk by. Its for research, right? Which is, being with Richard.. A conversation with Richard Ramirez behind bars. So heartbroken for anyone whose life ended at his sick hands. Harder described Ramirez as having a "very dark sense of humor" and loving his image as the Satanic Night Stalker. I found it rather kind of odd, him calling my buddy out for the same thing he was doing, except Walsh made the big bucks. But I did not have his address, so the letters piled up in a corner. But opting out of some of these cookies may have an effect on your browsing experience. Harder figured out he had lied after speaking to his wife Doreen, who married him in prison. I personally don't have any problems with folks who are known as "serial killer groupies" or whatever. He was convicted and sentenced to death but died while in prison. Even more disturbing, many of his crimes included a Satanic element such as carving pentagrams into his victims bodies. This is intended to try to start a discussion around the image. [1] About the same time, she met Rozz Williams, who was starting the band Christian Death. One of his pieces of prison arts appears to be a self portrait of him grinning and holding up a pentagram on his hand. Just a Guy, our first foray into the animated documentary genre, started its highly successful festival run in 2020. In the May I went with my wife and a girlfriend of ours and Ramirez asked me to stand against the wall, probably so he could get a better look at the girls, and I saw him pull the tissue out of his pants pocket. We have no hard and fast rules on correspondence at the moment, and i've held off on introducing them because there are facets of value in original content like this. Christian Death reunited and released two more albums, but the lineup that the band used on those albums was essentially just everyone from Shadow Project. I really think hes cute and Im gonna write to him. I mean, I would think thats kind of strange.. And to send pictures of yourself, to have it sent to your home address be careful, peeps. One of them was Eva O, whom he really had strong feelings for and was heartbroken when she left him. Edit: Thanks for all the great questions, guys. Eventually Eva O contributed to the band's 1982 album Only Theatre of Pain, which was a highly influential album on the emerging American deathrock movement. Getty ImagesRamirez professed his devotion to the Devil in court. Ive never made any secret to him that I wanted five or six children. The date of this crime is unknown, occurring between 29 th May and 1 st June, the day they were discovered. I value all of your opinions, and I do want to hear them. Some people explain the phenomenon as these women being attracted to dangerous men posing no danger to them. As for movies I like thrillers and comedies. This category only includes cookies that ensures basic functionalities and security features of the website. This group earned a following on L.A.'s deathrock scene of the early 1980s. The other 2 women are friends. Despite the grisly evidence that had convicted Ramirez, Lioy wholeheartedly believed that he was innocent. And yet, being detained in San Quentin State Prison, he has an enormous number of female groupies that are crazy about him. I would love to understand and study why women find these scumbags attractive. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. The fact that he generally attacked people weaker than him (including old women) means he was not someone who could defend his family well, only that he was good at ambushing the innocent. It's because it makes them feel special to believe that a man who rapes, tortures and murders other women would never be able to hurt them because, of course, they are just so much more special than those other women. To me, this was a historical day. "I just thought it was funny he wanted to look like this tough guy, this monster and Princess just didn't fit with that," Harder said. Etc etc. I could see being attracted to someone who would make you safer, but not this. As he languished on death row at San Quentin State Prison, Lioy was his most frequent visitor. But for all her efforts, she had to come to terms with the fact that he wouldnt give her the one thing she really wanted: children. I have also written to Philip Jablonski. Humanity everything is corrupt the moment a human touches it. How do you feel having created this relationship with him given who he is, u/Valleygawd? This to me is the best Christ mass song ever. Harder, who visited Ramirez twice in 2005, described the murderer as an awkward character who didn't really know how to interact with people. Such women are ultimately as insecure, narcissistic, pathetic and low in empathy as the serial killers they worship. Ramirez professed his devotion to the Devil in court. They dont know him the way I do.. So at the time, the idea of marrying a serial killer probably seemed ludicrous to Lioy. She was even the first woman he ever proposed to. The short film called Just a Guy is about the women that had relationships with Richard Ramirez. and our In the spring and summer of 1985, Ramirez . TwitterDoreen Lioy became Richard Ramirezs wife in San Quentin State Prison in 1996. Anyway, they could not understand that he was smiling at the camera to please me, because he had found a real friend in me. Richard Ramirez's bizarre childhood YouTube "Yeah he wasn't convicted of that but they were part of his case. [1] In 1994, she began working on her second solo album, which she was originally going to call Angels Fall for a Demon's Kiss, but after studying more about the classic hierarchy of angels on both sides of the good-vs-evil spectrum, she ended up becoming a Christian and rewriting the entire record and renaming it Demons Fall for an Angel's Kiss. Ultimately, their relationship most likely did not end well. Sean Penn was eager to complete his 60-day sentence without incident in 1987 when a guard approached him with a message from Richard Ramirez . She spent a lot of time with Richard Ramirez, with whom she claims she was in a relationship. By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. These cookies do not store any personal information. He talks about cats a lot. As for movies I like thrillers and comedies. Definitely wouldn't be sending photos of yourself or . Last seen at 10:50 a.m. on May 28, 1979, the nude Reseda youth was found violated, bludgeoned, stabbed, and strangled that same evening in Agoura. Deathrock legend Eva O. is one of them. Almost immediately after Richard Ramirez was arrested, Doreen Lioy realized she was attracted to the man. ", He goes on to ask about her family and other mundane details, before adding, "At what age did your breasts develop? Id have to go with GSK. Ramirez is locked up so he can't hurt them. Thanks again to everyone who contributed. Although shes certainly not the only woman who has fallen for a serial killer, Lioy stands out among many of them because she simply refused to accept her husbands verdict. ", News Group Newspapers Limited in England No. Death always comes with the territory. I love children, she said. I was so happy. "He just always masturbated. Discover short videos related to richard and eva letter on TikTok. Lioy wrote 75 letters to Ramirez during his imprisonment. 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