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His wife, um, went into hiding. Go. But the guy is cut to shreds, he's allowed to confess. Right? He says that he's always been hiring people based on how smart they are, and not who their grandparents were. Thank you to James Shapiro whose most recent book is called Contested Will. David always known this guy to be pretty mild mannered. New York Public Radio transcripts are created on a rush deadline, often by contractors. I'm not saying a word. And then the final one-. Okay? He did this experiment a bunch of times, and in a bunch of different ways. Then a few months later, he started calling me, trying to get back together, but I didn't want to. He even schemes against his own wife. We take a look at one particular fantasy lurking behind these numbers, and wonder what this shadow world might tell us about ourselves and our neighbors. He figured maybe 1% of these men would keep flicking these switches up to the highest voltage, but that's not what he found. Literally disappeared for six months, and didn't tell anyone where she was because she was terrified that he was going to kill her. We asked, "Who do you think about killing?" 1933 comes. But there's a fellow. It is still trotted out to explain everything from hazing to war crimes. There's a pause and my father just says. You know, what does he say? And it gets even more disturbing for my father as the conversation suddenly pivots to another victim. ", Only 10 percent, under those circumstances, go on. The good Iagos make you want to shower the minute you leave the theater. He loves the fatherland, and he loves Germany. We ask deep questions and use investigative journalism to get the answers. [inaudible 00:59:10] I went back one time before and [inaudible 00:59:13] that I Like I said, I got to give it out, can't keep holding it in. What makes boys boys and girls girls. You're going to keep giving what? Radiolab is supported by Casper. And-. The authoritative record of New York Public Radios programming is the audio record. Now you're saying actually that you could read that, that very dark fact, as being actually evidence of something quite- quite noble. And you find yourself in a situation where you've got to do something that's hard. ", Yeah, we just need a whole lot more of one simple-. Now what you need to understand about Alex Haslem is that he hates it when interviewers only want to talk about the baseline study. [2] She expressed disapproval about his clothing choices. In a rage how? Robert Krulwich: Uh, wait. He recruited a bunch of subjects. Hey wait! And I designed a little questionnaire where I simply asked the students, "Have you ever thought about killing someone?" It's called Too Much Information. This is just somebody who's performing brain surgery without anesthesia on other people. And every scenario produced a different result. Fast forward 10 years. It's very important because if you ask university undergraduates what does the Milgram study show, they will invariably say something like "They show that people obey orders" okay? And they think it's right. So, he sends a letter to the Ministry of Education resigning and he leaves Germany, telling a friend he felt like he lost his homeland. Because it's like we started with this experiment that we all see as evidence of humans' latent capacity for evil. But in a us sort of way. The show is nationally syndicated and is available as a podcast. He figures out a way to take a lot of air that's filled with these little nitrogen bonds clinging to each other and pump it to a big iron tank. Well what's the noble cause in this case? Then, we reconsider what Stanley Milgram's famous experiment really revealed about human nature (it's both better and worse than we thought). And according to some accounts, as it crept across no man's land-. Alex Haslam, professor of psychology at the University of Exeter. They're engaged with the test, they're trying to be good participants. He was in this state of fury, he said, and instead of hitting his wife, he smashed his fist into the bathroom mirror, and then realized that he had to leave the house, or he was going to do damage to her. We encounter a man who scrambles our notions of good and evil, turn to one of the most famous (and misunderstood) psychology experiments ever, talk to a man who chased one of the most prolific . This was a moment when human cruelty was on trial, quite literally. Suspected that it could be upwards of 75. Yes, and he did too. I mean it's a pretty heady thing for a Jewish kid from Breslau to be hobnobbing with the Emperor, and cabinet ministers, he's part of the club; and he really, really relished it. Hey this is Jad, RadioLab is supported by IBM. I'm going to resign.". Now that's important, it's very important. Radiolab.org. And once again, another nitrogen compound. I do not stand alone. Especially when it came to one particular fact. Thanks to all our great storytellers, Dan Charles, Sam Kean, Latif Nassar, Fred Kaufman, and Fritz Stern. Yeah. Only 10% under those circumstances go on. That is if you don't continue, we're going to have to discontinue the experiment. Warning. Gary starts going through this narrative of what he did to Carol. This is just a tsunami of evil that passes through the play. And he goes home for a few days a hero. Imagine they really were had to administer shocks to themselves or something. Okay, well actually the one thing that the study really doesn't show is that people obey orders. So, at a time when there are people all over our country eyeing other people all over the country and thinking, "She's bad. Wow. You- I mean, I'm not suggesting one should, but I'm just saying there is a sense in which these people are prepared to do something that's very painful to them and to someone else because they want to promote science. If any sizeable fraction actually acted on their homicidal fantasies, the streets would be running- running red. And 84% of the women. Whether it was feeding or killing or-, And he does. In that moment, my father, he stands up and he says. But he is a, uh, a large, very strong man. Okay, so I heard this one from this guy named David-. Okay? Suddenly I'm thinking this is actually a darker interpretation. Obviously no need to be alarmed, that was not a real shot. But in a famous incident, one of England's leading scientists refuses to shake his hand. In a way we wait for it still. How many times would they shock that sad-. Let not your sorrows die though I am dead. Like, he didn't intend for that to happen. in this episode we begin with a chilling statistic: 91% of men, and . He's standing there on the front, pushing the gas into the lungs of other human beings, admittedly, it's a ware, but still. Equal Housing lender licensed in all 50 states. My father's trying to, like, reach out to him. He has a pot belly. Nice sky? I just needed to kill because of that. And they go, "Why?" Wore a little, um, uh, pince-nez? "This was a moment in German history," he says, "When Jews had a decent amount of freedom.". Wasn't satisfied [inaudible 01:01:21] maybe mad 'cause she was very much in a hurry. Um, could you just- just tell me, uh, the little story that you begin your book with? I-. He is a soldier. He has a podcast. Hi, I'm Robert Krulwich. Now we're seeing about 100 million tons of synthetic fertilizer produced industrially each year. This is, uh, I just want to take a shower. Listen Now. Leaving his son alone with his dead mother. We have nothing. And also, thank you to Alex Haslam, Professor of Psychology at the University of Exeter. The questionnaires they filled out are part of the Milgram archive at Yale. So he starts experimenting. And as it happens, my father has very vivid memories of investigating the Carol Christensen murder. Is an absolute order. I'm just trying to imagine that. How could you? All rights reserved. What kind of tech company does the world need today? I mean you have to remember, during the Crimean War in the 1850s, Europe starves. They arrest Gary Le- Leon Ridgeway. What you know you know. And one of the first acts that the Nazis do is to basically issue an order that says there shall be no Jews in the civil service. Why does God allow this to happen? He says, "Well, we can drive those enemy soldiers out of trenches with gas. Like shocking an innocent stranger over and over. You better check in on him, sir. A lot of WNYC podcasts do transcripts-- I know On the Media does. They wanted someone who was really thrillingly bad, but in the end, was, uh, redeemed a bit. And it's kind of surprising, a lot of them are really positive, even though they've just been told that they were duped. He's a man adrift. Go to audible.com/radiolab or text Radiolab to 500500 for a free 30-day trial and a free audiobook. The whole thing happened serveral years ago. In December of 2001, my father and his colleagues, uh, made the arrest. The experiment requires that we continue. So, he ends up admitting it. He actually was very humiliated that Germany had lost, and especially humiliated over the fact that they had to pay enormous war reparations to other countries. We're all great apes. And the, uh, really, really bad that is in, uh, some of us. Fast forward 10 years. That's one of the things we have to know, and that's why it's okay to let it out. And I think what we want out of the why is meaning, meaning to life to reveal itself in a way that restores order and give us hope that all of this isn't just meaningless chaos. The shocker would say, "Hell no I don't.". It's a pretty big thing to miss (laughs) isn't it? Mm-hmm (affirmative), Mm-hmm (affirmative). That's right. Yellow mucus was frothing out of their mouths. He was trying to repeat this master stroke. I'm Robert Krulwich. The thing is that I do have a new boyfriend, but my ex-boyfriend doesn't know that yet, and I'm terrified that he'll do what he says. It's a pretty (bleep) thing to miss, isn't it really? And to this day, they have not talked about that day, and he hasn't talked about it with anyone until I interviewed him for the book. Just to back up for one second. Our- our friend. Yes. However, that leaves behind 20 million Germans. And, uh, so does Clara. I mean, I'm not suggesting one should, but I'm just saying there is a sense in which these people are prepared to do something that's very painful to them, and to someone else, because they want to promote science; well, you can see that's a good thing. So then Hey wait, I'm almost done guys, give me two more minutes, two more minutes. But when he gets there, he has to contend with his wife, Clara Immerwahr. And one evening they were throwing a- a party. And you have a number of chemical reactions. Yes, it's awesome. The story of Job is that one day God and Satan were having a conversation. I can't quite place him. Uh, and he finds her actually still alive with her life running out of her. When you call someone, "Evil." And, "Well why the rage?" And why I cared for her because I dated her before, but this day didn't turn out right. And they would circle yes or no. Some people describe it as a cloud, and then others describe it as this kind of 15 foot wall kind of hugging the land, and it's just sort of approaching. Uh, when- when asked how close she came to killing him, she estimated 60%. And we end with the story of a man who chased one of the most prolific serial killers in US history, then got a chance to ask him the question that had haunted him for years: why? Dylan Keith is our director of sound design. A lot of people were beginning to worry that with about a billion and a half people in the planet at that point, that maybe we were maxing out. In case you've never heard of this, probably have, but in case you haven't, here's what he did. In that why, in that one simple why that he asked Gary, there was a lot of questions he was asking. See now around this point I just don't have anything to do with this guy, I just want to take a shower, walk-. He signs up immediately, sends a letter volunteering for duty. And this is necessary in order to advance our noble cause.". What my father and his colleagues know is that something was done to these bodies; many of them after they were murdered. And then, he seemed fine when I said goodbye to him. Trivalent. Yeah, me too. And as it happens, my father has very vivid memories of investigating the Carol Christensen murder. This text may not be in its final form and may be updated or revised in the future. Yep, women participants, he had an experimenter who wasn't a scientist, but was a member of the general public. He says that he's gonna- He's always been hiring people based on how smart they are and not who their grandparents were. Our fact checker's Michelle Harris because facts matter. Those who could still breathe would turn blue. Test the outer edges of what you think you know, Copyright 2019 New York Public Radio. Or does everybody at some point have something dark in them? Fat- commit them to memory? All right. [1] Radiolab was founded by Jad Abumrad and Robert Krulwich in 2002. So, during World War I Haber's institute had developed a formulation of, um, insect killing gas called zyklon. Pat, go ahead. Do you leave this experiment in a light mood or in a dark mood? But every time the experimenter pulled out the fourth prod, and this was confirmed when the experiment was redone in 2006, total disobedience. So these are some word pairs. Eventually Iago convinces Othello that his wife has been disloyal, which hasn't. The fact that he kept on doing it over and over and over again was like, "Come on.". Uh, so what happened to David that night with his friend got him really curious about murder and badness and all these things we're thinking about. And on their skins, as on the bark of trees, have with my knife carved in Roman letters, 'Let not your sorrow die, though I am dead.'". And then, he starts this period of roaming. And one of the first acts that the Nazis do is to-, That says, "There shall be no Jews in the civil service. Is that how you say that? Well, you know, you can see that's a good thing. That he asked Gary, there was a lot of questions he was asking. Their goal is to make the home buying process smoother for you. There's something deeply, deeply wounding, stressing, upsetting a thought that he had anything to do with Zyklon B, but he did. This actually brings us to our first top of the hour, so just to set it up, Robert, I'm going to give you this piece of paper here. You know what's going to happen if she pisses you off. In Seattle today a man called the Green River killer-. This has allowed the world to have seven billion people. Really, that story has been told a million and one times for the last 50 years. It gets bogged down. So if you have kids in the room, maybe this is a time to tell them to go brush their teeth or something. But if you put two experimenters in the room and-. He buried them, or left their bodies in these little clumps in the woods-. So you ask like, "Why do people do bad things?". We were just enacting an old very famous experiment you may have heard about. You know what's going to happen if she [inaudible 01:02:25]. And he wrote this graphic novel that I read about one of the most prolific serial killers in U.S. history; Gary Leon Ridgeway, the Green River Killer. Today's date Is June 17, 2003. Check out the Casper or the Wave mattress providing supportive comfort for every body type. "Willing to help and a worthwhile experiment.". This is just somebody who's performing brain surgery without anesthesia on other people. ", And the class ended, and I went back to my office, and I just sat at my desk, and I started reading these. Uh, we ask "Who did you think about killing?" He brings her up as an example of a- of a woman that he actually had strong feelings for. I don't know that you could entirely call him bad, I might even tilt towards saying he's a little good, to be honest. That I remember picking her up and-. I would say in a powerful mood; we're close to some really fundamental truths about human nature. So, in the end where do you come down? And what happens is that you're- you're elbowing the nit- nitrogen apart from itself and then, forcing it to bond with a hydrogen in a new way. ", He actually threw a dinner party in celebration-. This episode of Radiolab, we wrestle with the dark side of human nature, and ask whether it's something we can ever really understand, or fully escape. Radiolab is on a curiosity bender. My name's Benjamin Walker and here are some Radiolab credit. I think they have to be extreme in the extreme. The time now is 0836 hours. Right. The fourth prod is. Uh, generates electric shocks. I mean, it's the fact that of course that they're administering main to a strange. Time's up. I think I call it [prince-nez 00:28:23], so I'm not sure. This is Radiolab. Yeah, necrophilia. And he is celebrated for it. I got to tell you, I'm not totally comfortable that you're providing all of the information [inaudible 00:57:52]-. Today's date is, uh, June 17th. We're close to some really fundamental truths about human nature. Fact is if you don't continue, uh, we're going to discontinue the experiment. ", "We'll basically bring it to the front and when the- when the wind is right, we'll just spray it.". Take one. [inaudible 00:59:22] it's building up [inaudible 00:59:24]. And so, Gary starts going through this narrative of what he did to Carol. In front of this really impressive looking machine. Search metadata Search text contents Search TV news captions Search radio transcripts Search archived web sites Advanced Search. I'm not going to give you what you want. Prosecution, [crosstalk 00:12:03] the Attorney General. It was actually a crushing blow for- for him. I needed to kill her because that-. As far as I know, I don't know if I did or not. But if they were prepared to do that, when I suspect a lot of them would, then we'd say, "These are people who really believe in science, and isn't this a good thing that we have people in our society, who are willing to make sacrifices-. I'm going to take a break. He had snapped. I don't think I've ever had a fantasy that- that anatomically specific where I would see the part of the other person that I was going to stab or plan it like that. Humans. Now there's a footnote to this that is very strange. Just push the button that corresponds to the right word. And then, walks away from his child and his wife dead in the garden and says-. "Definitely yes.". On the other hand, if anyone can do it-. With all of the black-and-white moralizing in our world today, we decided to bring back an old show about the little bit of bad that's in all of us.and the little bit of really, really bad that's in some of us. Now, why don't you just- what do you remember since we last talked in this interview? Although, I don't know if that's the right word for this next thing 'cause it's sort of more complicated. It was developed in his institute. Gary had denied this to his own lawyers. All right. I think you got to answer it with him, right? These violent delights tienen fin violento. But if you put two experimenters in the room, and-. Now, as we sort of know in life, lots of things that we do, if they worthwhile doing, and not always easy. And then, she said, "I actually did this. Prince-nez? So, it's very-. God, 'cause it's like we started with this experiment that we all see as evidence of human's latent capacity of evil. He said that if I ever had a relationship with another man, he was going to send videos of us having sex to all the people in my university. And they ask for it to be reformulated to take out the warning smell. There's lots and lots of lessons here, but one is I think when you're enjoying to do something for the greater good, maybe ask yourself the question, "What is greater, and what is good?". Radiolab is supported by Audible. Nice job? TRANSCRIPTS We are working to provide transcripts for as much of our programming as we can over. And she takes a service revolver-. Visit our website. Nothing to be ashamed of. But as far as I know, there are none for Radiolab.I think I once read a statement from Jad and/or Robert that they view the show as an audio experience, and so believe it can't be captured in a transcript. It's the experimenter. And actually this wasn't just a German thing, a lot of people were beginning to worry that with about a billion and a half people on the planet, at that point, that maybe we were maxing out, that the earth couldn't support this many people. And not just yeses. Is an absolute order. There's a sort of chilling comparison which is a speech that Himmler gave to some SS leaders when they were about to commit a range of atrocities. But you know, we ended up walking this question around to different people. So he sends a letter to the Ministry of Education resigning, and he leaves Germany. Would change where the shocker and the shock-ee sat. He would change where the shocker and the shockee sat. The fact that he kept on doing it over, and over, and over again was like, "Come on.". But in all of these other scenarios, they don't. One that applies smart technologies at scale with purpose and expertise; not just for some, but for all. Is that- is that nitrogen is trivalent. Right. So, Jeff wrote this book because his father, Tom Jensen, was one of the lead detectives tracking Gary Ridgeway. I'm about to help this quest for knowledge. What follows is this ongoing conversation between Job and his friends about why does this happen? It comes to us from our reporter, Aaron Scott. It has enough, what they used to call then solar energy. What he means is that when nitrogen atoms are just free floating in the air, they will cling to each other. Hi, this is Lauren from Winnipeg. And you like her. You wouldn't though. He figured maybe one percent of these men would keep flicking the switches, up to the highest voltage. And he ran them through something like what you and I just did. Under some circumstances we don't do the bad thing we're told to do because" here's another flip "We don't have to be told. So, my father and the other interviewer in that room that morning, Detective John Natson, they start using a line of, uh, uh, a tact of, uh, uh, of interviewing him that was very-. This is Everybody was desperate for sources, new sources of nitrogen. 2K views almost 2 years ago 48:23 Love it or hate it, the freedom to say obnoxious and subversive things is the quintessence of what makes America America. He would obscure. Gary said, "I needed to kill them," they go, "Why?" And while David's sitting in the bedroom with this friend, the guy looks up at him and he says-, Like, through his teeth. Okay. And he says, "Can I come over and sleep on your couch? Uh, it makes up four out of every five or so molecules that we breathe. We'll be right back. At this point, David's moved onto a new university and he's teaching an introductory psychology class. They couldn't deploy it. And she said, "My ex-boyfriend. Like, how do you tell the real baddies from the rest of us? Well I mean, I know it does, sir. And, you know, the class ended and I went back to my office. And Satan's like, "Well, I- I bet I can change his mind." He's bald. Members of his extended family did. Thank you to Jim Shapiro, whose most recent book is called Contested Will. This was a moment when human cruelty was on trial. He actually was very humiliated, uh, that Germany had lost. Okay, it's all right, but we've got to know that. Was it nice day? And every scenario produced a different result. New York Public Radio transcripts are created on a rush deadline, often by contractors. Speaking with Carol's mom, Carol's little daughter. Y-P-R-E-S, Actually the Americans called it [inaudible 00:36:42]. So, they sit down in the chair thinking, "Wow. Because this room's echo-y. The story of Job is that one day God and Satan are having a conversation, and they're saying, "Have you checked out Job? You're telling this [inaudible 01:02:30]. That allows an individual to act inhumanely? Walked in and asked his wife where this friend of mine was, and she got a disgusted look on her face, and said that he was up in the bedroom. And I heard about him from science writer, Sam Kean. You know, he's a man adrift. That was just for those of you haven't heard it yet, this is a kind of a rush through a- through sex reproduction. Yeah, I carried your oxygen and you walked beside me through the lobby commenting on the decor. And he believed it. If the experimenter is not a scientist, but is an ordinary man. More information about Sloan at www.sloan.org. Well, Sam, what happened to this guy after World War I? You better check in on him sir. "I'm willing to help in a worthwhile experiment.". Mm-hmm (affirmative). Reviews . We ask deep questions and use investigative journalism to get the answers. But he organizes soldiers, he organizes whole gas units. Fritz Haber's a professor, small university. That's my thing and that's where I'm going to stand on it. Now we don't actually know if he threw a party. Finally acknowledging, "Yeah, that's true." And he said, to start, "You want to know about bad? , thank you to Jim Shapiro, whose most recent book is called Contested Will kept doing. Hand, if anyone can do it- War in the garden and says- what... 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