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; _____; aaaa. They apologized. They were ignorant and uneducated at the time. hitType: 'event', It's harder to get exposed to these issues that we know about under their circumstances, but once Mamamoo comes across them and understand, they'll learn from it. It is continued bashing and harassment of four girls, who for all accounts dont deserve it. This has taken me quite a while to write because its about 3 am and Im trying not to come across as rude or self-righteous, which I something I often do unintentionally, and Im really sorry its so long when you probably didnt even want a response in the first place. I messed up, a lot, and I honestly do regret making the post. Our team is real men., Actually, we are all men, real men ah! JavaScript is disabled. Call me out for what? I was enjoying binging 4 years worth of missed content from them but I guess it's inevitable that I stumbled on . I did include apologies though, such as Shindongs, Kangins and Zhoumis. Its so sad because I love them and hope they grow more internationally. When I say this, the person might think, Look whos talking, but I would reply, Im a boy and youre a girl, To this, both Kim Shin Young and announcer Gu Eun Young retorted, Why does gender matter in this situation? Anyway, I hope this didnt come across as rude or anything, but I really need to go to sleep now. hey uh, not a lot of people are anyway (thankfully), but Id really appreciate it if people could stop reblogging the super junior post I made, thatd be fab ty. Everyone is allowed to make mistakes and with those mistakes, come the opportunity to correct them. It arguably began around late 2018 Windflower era, when antis began to change Mamamoo's music video titles to racial slurs and death threats. It is absurd. eventCategory: event.slot.getSlotElementId(), They're also one of the very few idol groups where everyone has expressed that they're supportive of the LGBT+ community, which is huge especially in such a conservative country like South Korea. Ive said before that my intent is to provide information, and that should include context and possible explanations, and Im sorry it didnt. Advanced Faker. So i don't usually dig into controversies but I couldn't help bumping into a few recently regarding Mamamoo. i love exo. #AskHwasa pic.twitter.com/h0oPUHVyku, Some, naturally, came to Hwasa's defense, pointing out that her, the rest of Mamamoo, as well as their label Rainbowbridge World (RBW), have all apologized or at the very least provided an explanation for their actions in the past. Everyone seems to think that the world revolves around them. },false) it is also very likely the kangin/n thing was scripted, considering n hung out with suju members shortly after and neither n nor kangin nor their companies were asked about it EVEN ONCE and calling someonetrash in a magazine or bts video is a big deal. If you think ive missed anything please send me a message but dont forget to try to include a source! The most ridiculous thing I have heard it that Hwasa try to be black like how by being Confident and unapologetic about her skin tone, clothing and looks cause she radiates hotness. Thank you very much for the information!! That obviously didnt work too well. 2. They could learn about Korean values and customs online, but they'll never truly understand the severity of it because they're not from that culture where it's significant. Yet she's okay with that. It's just crazy how haters can twist every single thing. I did do that on my exo masterpost, but I also spent a lot more time and thought on that post as well. ", HELP THE QUESTIONS FOR #AskHwasa I CANT pic.twitter.com/hfqIr5fn9w, THE TWEETS UNDER THIS HASHTAG ARE RUTHLESS AHAJAKXH #AskHwasa pic.twitter.com/gEpnibGF9J, the gates of heaven are not opening for ANY of yall #AskHwasa, Baby Mia Jade Riley: Parents Lani and Tom Riley speak out after dog attack killed their 5-week-old infant, 'We have lots to reveal': Madeleine McCann lookalike Julia Wandelt posts footage of meeting with PI probing claims, Kyle Sambrook: Hiker falls 100ft to death while carrying his dog in one hand through 'appalling' weather, Killer mom Lindsay Clancy was suffering from drug withdrawal and had 'worst side effects,' says friend, Bruce Willis's mom Marlene 'not sure if her son still recognizes her' as 'aggressiveness' creeps in. Solar | Moonbyul | Wheein | Hwasa. Shaun of @shaun_vids on Twitter said recently in response to another girl's hate storm against her that mirrors the exact same patterns as Mamamoo's, If someone does something worthy of criticism, and that criticism is then directly delivered thousands of times by different people (a section of whom will go much too far and be genuinely abusive), it all just merges into abuse in the perception of the one being criticised.. In this video, they wore blackface. 1,068. }) The post isnt supposed to be the be-all-and-end-all of offensive super junior. In fact, I really like them. }); gads_event = event; You can decide to remove them from your lives, not support them, not give them any attention, money or time, but death threats? You don't have to to forgive them for the blackface but I see far too much misinformation being spread and everyone just take as word. I wholeheartedly accept that I messed up on this and Im really sorry, because I feel like I sort of have a responsibility not to spread misinformation and thats exactly what I did. Wore a headscarf in a similar way to a hijab in, When a male fan said Saranghae (I love you) to him, he responded by going, Made the picture of Yesung in blackface his, Def Conn was talking about a trade he did with an African American regarding some Micheal Jordan shoes in which Kyuhyun retorted, Said that Kais defining feature was that his, Then proceeded to say Taos face color is dark because its green at 23:11 of the same, Assigned gummy bears to Exo-K members and, In the same interview, Kai sort of called him out on his colorism/shadism and Chanyeol said , Used a caricature app to make the Exo members and created, When Xiumin chose him as first place after being asked which exo member hed date if he were a girl, he saidIt feels pretty good to be in first place, but it is first place from the viewpoint of a male but then said a few seconds laterThis first place feels a little its a good thing! Mamamoo isn't even the first K-Pop group or artist to don blackface in 2012, Big Bang's G-Dragon (who have been called the "biggest band in Asia") posted a horrific photo that many believed was. Red Velvet too. If you haven't, let me enlighten you. And please send me a link when you upload the video, Id be interested in seeing your translation. It's really difficult to see the hate towards these girls when I see how hard they had to struggle to climb up the ladder when they came from such a small company but I do believe they'll prevail and work hard to improve themselves as they've always been doing since 2014 . Others were soon reminding Hwasa once again of her past mistakes, including wearing blackface along with the rest of Mamamoo in a performance where they were parodying Bruno Mars. Contents 1 History 1.1 Pre-debut 1.2 2014: Debut with Hello, and Piano Man 1.3 2015: Pink Funky 1.4 2016: Melting, MOOSICAL and Memory 1.5 2017: MOOSICAL Curtain Call and Purple However, this became a lot more unlikely when a second video was released, titled censored version, which did not include the supposed autism comment. Threads: 200. I think people need to realize that Asia is still inside a bit of a bubble when it comes to what is appropriate regarding race and cultures. I can definitely understand where youre coming from and why you sounded defensive. pg.acq.push(function() { there is nothing wrong with heechul thinking kris leaving exo was disrespectful - its his opinion, its not problematic. Others, despite agreeing that Hwasa was at fault, thought the questions were taking it too far. pg.acq.push(function() { ourbridgeisforever:. So girls have to be skinny and boys can be Taken aback by their remarks, Shindong quickly explained, Im just saying. Even if it was a joke or a passing, it wasnt very funny. So trend they did. Hwasa, while covering the track, read the lyrics as is, leading to the gaffe. ", And if anybody wants to get brave about their past mistakes, heres a link with receipts and explanations. Probation Faker. Compare this to some other idol groups with rabid fanbases, any controversy and they're ready to defend their idols to the point of issuing death threats to the critiques. The sun will always shine for us. Above all, however, Mamamoo is a power-vocal group and strongly celebrated for it, even winning Favorite Vocal Artist at both the 2018 and 2019 MAMAs. eventAction: 'click_adunit' Our hearts on fire . 1) I made this post because Ive seen people actively asking about what things suju have done and whether we have a masterpost, this wasnt supposed to be a resource for people to use to justify their hate for suju, however if a person does hate suju because of things members have said/done that is up to them. Dark smudges of makeup were put on her face to represent dirt that the beggar character had on him, and people accused her of doing blackface for it, even though she was portraying a Korean character, and not someone of African descent. During their concert on Friday in Seoul, Mamamoo released a. But what appears to be the root of people's unforgiving nature where Hwasa is concerned is that despite past apologies and promises to do better, the idol has continued to make mistakes in the form of cultural appropriation. | A Japanese Man Reacts to Duolingo Let's ask Shogo | Your. 2) Its a good thing that people talk about suju being problematic? i know you deemed your siwon thing heavily unreliable but even the fanvideo is wrong. }); Please think before you write these messages. ", Hey remember dressing up in blackface with the rest of Mamamoo #AskHwasa pic.twitter.com/3AqtVlig1n, what we feeling today -er or -a? Its kinda iffy, and as a trans & queer person it definitely rubs me the wrong way :-//. Its blatantly homophobic and transphobic, like, there is no possible way you could deny that. Its easy for us to do because we arent in their position, I know we like to believe that we would be 100% perfect celebrities if we were given the chance, but we havent been in the spotlight for 10 years (Im sure I would have messed up far more than some of the members have over 10 years). Im getting upset the more I think about it lol but really its just a lot of misconceptions; sometimes culturally and linguistically, that Americans like to hold a grudge against. For hours the terms hwasa n-word, hwasa racist, hwasa ugly, hwasa dead, were the most common twitter terms in Hwasas searches, while Moos rushed around trying to tweet positive things and trend protective hashtags in response. For the writer herself, she said she used to stan Mamamoo and doesn't anymore because of the problematic things they've done. The company even took it down same day and cut it out so to make sure that it was offending people. My first mistake was actually assuming that the video at the source was still there (because it had been last time I checked) and so I thought people would automatically know that he said it a long time ago judging by the video itself. please read this first, honestly i will not respond to anyone who has not read this first. I dont properly feel as though I can talk about in depth because I have limited knowledge (which I probably should have specified in the post) but I didnt just pull it out of my ass, I included it because Id seen people get offended by it (though predominantly by Gain). I have no reason not to trust the 2 Korean-speaking people whove come forward and told me it isnt a mistranslation? A lot seem to be taken out of context and exaggerated. } The photos are problematic as they were taken in 2008 when Chorong was in high school and underage at 17 years old. According to Koreaboo, throughout the conversations, not a single person from their side attempted to make excuses for their actions. But i was told online that even after apologised that they did it again but I couldn't find anything that showed that the only thing I found was Solar doing a beggar impersonation SNL in 2016 but that's not blackface or colourism as I have seen people try to argue, as homeless do get dark or tanner as they are unable to clean themselves properly and are outside all the time. To discuss the bullying and harassment Mamamoo now receives daily, we must first lay out what originally brought out all the hate. Ive seen multiple times that idols should know better because they have internet access and should know why the n word is bad or why blackface is bad. On top of that, they bash the fans saying we overlook everything and that Mamamoo should have been cancelled by now. I only made the post because Ive personally received asks about whether or not there is a Super Junior master post and whether specific members have done anything, and thought itd be easy to compile a list, seeing as thats sorta what this blog is for. Heres the thing- you can not forgive them. They expect idols to be the wokest people out there because theyre celebrities when in reality theyre just the product of their colorist society. I have a tendency to get a bit defensive and come across as rude/mocking/patronising/self righteous when I dont mean to, which Im trying to work on, but its hard to tell when Im doing it, so I try to avoid argument a lot. In the show, there are co-cast members Par Na Rae and Han Ye Jin. when Lay said, When asked about his ideal type, said that she, He and Chen chose Kai and Tao as the members they wouldnt want to date if they were girls, when Chen was explaining why, Xiumin interrupted him and saidThey both have a similarity, theyre both tanned (, Posted a photograph of him in a face mask on Weibo and captioned it, Apparently there were some old online comments from Baekhyuns cyworld account where he called girls at his High School sluts but I cant find any screenshots, Chanyeol and Baekhyun apparently admitted to teasing the Chinese members at first for their pronunciation/korean and acted somewhat cold towards them, though I cannot find a source for this, Many people have said Chanyeol said his ideal type would have white/pale skin but I cant find a source on that so Im not sure, Some people have told me that Kris is sexist/misogynistic but I cant find anything about this online, I also vaguely remember seeing a picture of exo which one of the members wrote comments on and there was something about Kais skin being dark but I cant remember who it was (possibly Kai himself?) I feel like this sounds insincere but its not, I promise, I wish I had gone about it very differently. The song itself did not originally contain the word, but the lyrics Hwasa was using were taken off the Melon website, which did. There are so many kids in the . If you have anything else you wanna add/say, my ask box is open, but I probably wont reply until tomorrow because I really need to go to bed. Having said that it was still wrong but I don't acquite it to a minstrel show or it have been in a mock manner and I am glad that they apologised and have learnt from that. As Ive said before, Im not a muslim, and I was just going off of what Id seen other muslim bloggers say. Another chose to call out an even older incident, one in which Hwasa used the n-word while covering a Beyonc song. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. ga('ads.send', { omg lol at everything written under heechul. window.adsContainer = {"positionAfterTitle":{"code":"Article_Desktop_300x250_Middle5_Rel_Newrev","isOrganicUserAd":true,"max_width":336,"max_height":280},"position2":{"code":"Article_Desktop_300x250_After_Title_Rel_Newrev","max_width":336,"max_height":280},"position3":{"code":"Article_Desktop_300x250_Below_Next_Rel_Newrev","max_width":300,"max_height":250},"position4":{"code":"Article_Desktop_300x250_Middle_Rel_Newrev","max_width":300,"max_height":250},"position5":{"code":"Article_Desktop_300x250_Middle1_Rel_Newrev","max_width":300,"max_height":250},"position6":{"code":"Article_Desktop_300x250_Middle2_Rel_Newrev","max_width":336,"max_height":280},"position7":{"code":"Article_Desktop_300x250_Middle3_Rel_Newrev","max_width":300,"max_height":250},"position8":{"code":"Article_Desktop_300x250_Middle4_Rel_Newrev","max_width":300,"max_height":250},"position9":{"code":"Article_Desktop_300x250_Middle5_Rel_Newrev","max_width":336,"max_height":280},"position10":{"code":"Article_Desktop_300x250_Middle6_Rel_Newrev","max_width":336,"max_height":280},"position11":{"code":"Article_Desktop_300x250_Middle7_Rel_Newrev","max_width":336,"max_height":280},"position12":{"code":"Article_Desktop_300x250_Middle8_Rel_Newrev","max_width":336,"max_height":280},"position13":{"code":"Article_Desktop_300x250_Middle9_Rel_Newrev","max_width":336,"max_height":280},"position14":{"code":"Article_Desktop_300x250_Middle10_Rel_Newrev","max_width":336,"max_height":280},"position15":{"code":"Article_Desktop_300x250_Middle11_Rel_Newrev","max_width":336,"max_height":280},"position16":{"code":"Article_Desktop_300x250_Middle12_Rel_Newrev","max_width":336,"max_height":280},"positionTop":{"code":"Article_Desktop_970x250_Header_Rel","isOrganicUserAd":false,"max_width":970,"max_height":250},"positionBottom":{"code":"Article_Desktop_Sidebar_Bottom_Rel_Newrev","isOrganicUserAd":true,"max_width":300,"max_height":600},"positionBottomRight":{"code":"Article_Desktop_300x250_After_Title_Rel_Newrev","isOrganicUserAd":true,"max_width":336,"max_height":280}} They debuted on June 19, 2014 with the mini album Hello . Meanwhile for girl groups it's just full of hate comments even if they did not do as many or as severe problematic things as boy groups. Ill probably look for another video of the same segment at some point but I dont have time right now. hitType: 'event', 18 Jan 2023, 08:31 PM . Thanks for posting this. Things not included arent included because they DIDNT happen, stop believing lies told by edgy K-pop stans w/o any receipts. Im not Korean and I dont live in Korea so Im not comfortable talking about Korean social norms or anything like that, but colorism and homophobia are still bad and damaging things. Um yeah they are just that close that they make fun of each other. document.querySelector("#google_image_div").addEventListener('click',function(){ offensive/misogynistic comments to his Cyworld account, Kai was in charge of skin color in the group, my noona is a little on the tanned side, no wonder why you guys acted like you were so close with each other, I thought the lights were not entering over there, said that he has Kai saved as Blackie in his phone contacts, in a pre-debut video with a hard -er at the end, how can you say something that doesnt even make sense?, Chanyeol asked Kai if he wanted to lighten his skin, Dont misunderstand us. This is extremely disheartening, as Hwasa has spent her entire life fighting against such backwards thoughts as that. Joined: Sep 2021 #1. I also included a link to it at the top of the super junior post. My anxiety and paranoia are bad enough as it is but they shoot up every time I post on here, leaving me feeling sick when I cant check my inbox (or when I have lots of messages) and paranoid that everybody hates me/this blog. It hurts my heart to see people bash them like that, it really does. Everyday there are tweets wishing for her to die, get beat up, fall out of planes, etc. For example, Ryeowook is another suju member I really like, and I dont agree with him using a picture of Yesung in blackface as his twitter icon whatsoever, I think it was incredibly offensive and insensitive and ignorant, but its not something that has caused me to dislike him. eventCategory: event.slot.getSlotElementId(), Some things aren't even their fault, but ofc they're going to frame it that way (like Wheein saying that she feels like a normal person for making silly faces and people bashing her saying that she's thinking too highly of herself as a celebrity? Mamamoo Has Been Receiving Hate Storms- And It's Only Getting Worse. I included links to a post explaining why Siwons alleged homophobic comment was extremely dubious and likely to be untrue, though I guess I probably shouldnt have included it at all (I assumed people would go to the link). Coming in at last place is the debut single of NMIXX, O.O.This song now also holds the distinction of having the lowest average in the history of KSOTY. All this being said, Mamamoo is truly know, not as huge award/reality show winners, but as an idol group of the people. Personally, from the time that I've been a fan, Mamamoo has usually apologized/acted contrite for any controversies that they've caused. In terms of overlooking, I'm not sure what is expected since they've apologized for their actions and speech and the apologies have been pretty prompt. The point is to provide information about things which could be perceived as offensive so that fans can decide for themselves whether or not they feel comfortable continuing to support the idols. And when a few Moos did call other fandoms out on their abusive tweets, the response that night was majority she deserves it, or most common answer: its just a joke. Also I see hate being normalised and even being defended its not hard if u don't want to forgive them then just ignore or block all mentions of them. }); },false) However it did look dumb not going to lie not a good look and hopes she does not it again. Like everyone says here, it will never excuse their actions but if we can see them grow and learn from their mistakes I'll always be there to support them. Im also scared of spreading misinformation and making mistakes (both of which are things I have done), and I dont like the idea of people feeling too intimidated to call me out when I mess up. During their concert on Friday in Seoul, Mamamoo released a. but this stuff isnt discussed when it comes to suju - people take anything and make it problematic for members who havent done things like kangin, shindong, leeteuk, and yesung, and then just throw it around to defend their favorites. We're celebrities too but we're human first.". Good night @noobmaster89 and solar cult. In order to do that, I must describe the actions Mamamoo has done in the past that received the most vocal and widespread backlash, and then explain what happened as a result. Yet we wonder why idols have to constantly showcase an "image" in order to not upset fans. Because of mistakes that they've made out of ignorance, mistakes that they've apologized for. The whole thing was carelessly done and not very thorough. I've researched it online and all I see are hate comments, especially towards Solar and Wheein. not excusing it or defending, but Henry was a little boy from Canada, and that kind of fan service is really odd in general to the West, Id hardly call that problematic. People always said they do so much CA and I tried to find some examples but the only one that again seemed to be twisted was them appropriating Indian culture during AZE GAG but that was misconstrued as it was about Buddhism not Hindu culture even the line is the song is about Buddhism and one of the members is Buddhist so I don't have a massive issue with it. let gads_event; My hiatus is indefinite, but its unlikely Ill be running it again any time soon. Whew, Im sorry for the long post haha. Hope that all made sense! Im ironically bad at dealing with conflict, which might make some people question why I started this blog (it was actually an accident, long story), but Ive tried not to let it affect my running of this blog. Joined: Mar 2022 #5. The ring around her mouth: Now a ring around someones mouth was something drawn back in the days of blackface to emphasize big lips. No it doesnt excuse what theyve said, but its likely that they have changed, which is something everybody does and it should be embraced. As much as I have enjoyed running this blog, there are lots of aspects of it which have purely been a source of anxiety and distress for me. I do understand that some things which look like reaches to other people arent always reaches though. }) eventCategory: event.slot.getSlotElementId(), Mamamoo's Hwasa has come under fire more than once after accusations of racism and cultural appropriation. cc @sexeyXR @chsjason @Mata10. Ive seen a lot of people (and even previously been them sometimes) throwing around the Siwon thing to say hes wildly homophobic, for example, when it turned out to be heavily unreliable and probably false. That worried him. In response to the criticisms of how I was presenting my information, they are valid criticisms. Siwon isnt the only member this has happened to, and I also understand that a lot of the time people take things out of context in order to justify hating on a specific member and its really frustrating. hitType: 'event', It's incredibly frustrating dealing with these kinds of people. 1 2 3 4 5 Maria29 Kpop Rookie Member Joined Dec 6, 2022 Messages 38 Location Houston Tx Credits 141 Jan 25, 2023 #81 Im glad that people find this blog useful and Im glad some of the posts have helped raise awareness and educate people about the offensive things idols do, but this blog requires a lot of time and energy and knowledge that I just dont have. They make a difference. Im simply complying a list of things that could be perceived as offensive or problematic so that fans can decide for themselves. I made an exo masterpost and since then Ive had a lot of messages from people telling me that they no longer feel that they can bias Chanyeol or Baekhyun, which is their own personal decision, and something that they chose based on information I provided. The MAMAMOO Introduction Guide of 2022 (Part 1: Members) MOO YT 40K views 7 months ago Is Duolingo Really a Good Way to Study Japanese? One user shared, "HELP THE QUESTIONS FOR #AskHwasa I CANT," along with a screenshot of some of their favorites, another said, "THE TWEETS UNDER THIS HASHTAG ARE RUTHLESS AHAJAKXH," and one joked, "The gates of heaven are not opening for ANY of yall. MAMAMOO debuted on June 18, 2014, along with their single "Mr. Ambiguous." MAMAMOO was commended along with their first single by the critics as one of the best K-pop debut group in 2014. People @Pr0blematicIdol follows or mentioned can reply Problematic Idols @Pr0blematicIdol Jan 3, 2021 Replying to @Pr0blematicIdol The thing to note here is that Hwasa is not fluent in English. Heechul put the scarf on his head as Gain was explaining why she chose to wear hers in a hijab style. When asked about it, she replied that it was an homage to Rihanna, who wore something similar in a performance, as RIhanna is one of the people she looks up to the most. I always try to reblog posts made by the people who are affected and include links in my responses but I havent been so good at keeping my mouth shut when it doesnt involve me, which is something I am going to change in myself. It is common in America to wear red puffy wigs as the stereotype of a clown, however it is not as common in South Korea, which is why Hwasa wore braids as the hair to her outfit. ga('ads.send', { I like most of the members included in that post, please dont try to make it out like I dont, because it perpetuates the idea that fans cant criticise the things they love. You need to Register or Login to view the content Goodnight. Discover short videos related to mamamoo being problematic on TikTok. Someone might think its petty or ridiculous but theres no reason for people to put up with something offensive if they dont want to. Like who is the next ethnicity youre going to offend? Korean girl group Mamamoo apologized Saturday after a video clip aired at their concert that featured the quartet in blackface. People are accusing me of purposefully portraying all the members on the list as villains and not including their apologies. For me, I think controversies and hate are just the unfortunate and difficult side that comes with being an idol. I just always feel the need to resolve something when I get into it and I could see where you were coming from (plus you made some valid criticisms) so I thought Id explain myself. I feel like my SuJu MP wasnt anywhere near as thorough as the exo one because I have exams at the moment so I was unable to spend as much time on it, so Id really appreciate it if people sent me anything they think I missed. if he just said that he wasshocked because he thought they were gay/trans, then its iffy. and I know it would've been much, much lower if I didn't force y'all to give the NMIXX songs an average of at least 3.00. The show is about celebrities living their daily life alone. eventCategory: event.slot.getSlotElementId(), I dont know how familiar you are with vixx, but N is constantly put down by hisfriends about his appearance (specifically his skin color) and one of the things Kangin criticised him for was his self confidence, which honestly, was really, really rude and definitely uncalled for. I actually really appreciate people messaging me about stuff and talking it through with me, especially because I actually really dislike conflict (makes me wonder why I started this blog really haha). It really does hurt reading them, crazy to know about the double standards too :((. I included links to everything that was on the list (some of which had been deleted - another thing I messed up on big time) and with certain things, I did include a bit of extra information (e.g. Receiving hate Storms- and it & # x27 ; t, let me enlighten you yeah! 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